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		<title>By: clay</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/12/19/the-denver-thuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-12660</link>
		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clay</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/12/19/the-denver-thuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-12659</link>
		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes there are and those rules were implemented in recent years.  they have different forms of flagrant fouls that result in automatic ejections and suspensions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes there are and those rules were implemented in recent years.  they have different forms of flagrant fouls that result in automatic ejections and suspensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/12/19/the-denver-thuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-12651</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way you can name 100 fights that are worse in the HISTORY of the NBA. 

There is no deterrent for hard, uncalled for intentional fouls.  Carmelo got dinged for sucker punching a player.  

There was no penalty for trying to hurt a guy going up for layup other than 2 shots and the ball.  In other sports there are fines and suspensions.  

Not in the NBA.

He&#039;s not a role model.  He&#039;s a talented basketball player.  There is nothing in any of these two athletes that I want my son emulating.  

Nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way you can name 100 fights that are worse in the HISTORY of the NBA. </p>
<p>There is no deterrent for hard, uncalled for intentional fouls.  Carmelo got dinged for sucker punching a player.  </p>
<p>There was no penalty for trying to hurt a guy going up for layup other than 2 shots and the ball.  In other sports there are fines and suspensions.  </p>
<p>Not in the NBA.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not a role model.  He&#8217;s a talented basketball player.  There is nothing in any of these two athletes that I want my son emulating.  </p>
<p>Nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no deterrent?  a 15 game suspension (about 1/6 of the season) is a pretty good deterrent.  and this is all in reaction to the artest deal in detroit.  as many people have said, there have been 100 worse fights in the nba.  this is not that big of a deal, and its overhyped.  

he may not be the greatest role model off the court, but he definately is on the court and that is why he is with denver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no deterrent?  a 15 game suspension (about 1/6 of the season) is a pretty good deterrent.  and this is all in reaction to the artest deal in detroit.  as many people have said, there have been 100 worse fights in the nba.  this is not that big of a deal, and its overhyped.  </p>
<p>he may not be the greatest role model off the court, but he definately is on the court and that is why he is with denver.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/12/19/the-denver-thuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-12622</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a fight breaks out in hockey or baseball - it doesn&#039;t involve the fans.  This one did.  When a hard foul or flagrant hit is done in football - there is not only a penalty and sometimes an ejection but also a fine.  

NBA has no review policy on hard like that so it there is no real deterrent to what happened in NYC. 

It&#039;s not about the tats.  It&#039;s about making rap albums that he can&#039;t release because the content is so racy and vulgar, the commissioner tells him not to.  It&#039;s about the marijuana possession and domestic abuse charges.  It&#039;s about having 15 guys surround him like a posse to maintain &quot;street cred.&quot;

He&#039;s an incredible talent and a sad example to kids everywhere.  

Same for &#039;Melo.  The same week he opens a youth center, he starts a brawl in NYC.

That&#039;s the difference.  That and the fact they don&#039;t even care about the kind of example they are setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a fight breaks out in hockey or baseball &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t involve the fans.  This one did.  When a hard foul or flagrant hit is done in football &#8211; there is not only a penalty and sometimes an ejection but also a fine.  </p>
<p>NBA has no review policy on hard like that so it there is no real deterrent to what happened in NYC. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about the tats.  It&#8217;s about making rap albums that he can&#8217;t release because the content is so racy and vulgar, the commissioner tells him not to.  It&#8217;s about the marijuana possession and domestic abuse charges.  It&#8217;s about having 15 guys surround him like a posse to maintain &#8220;street cred.&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s an incredible talent and a sad example to kids everywhere.  </p>
<p>Same for &#8216;Melo.  The same week he opens a youth center, he starts a brawl in NYC.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the difference.  That and the fact they don&#8217;t even care about the kind of example they are setting.</p>
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